Cigars And Conversations

Strap yourself in because this episode is all over the place. Derek goes in depth about his newest hobby, bullwhips! From there, the guys get in their time machine and go back to the early 1900s to discuss Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Billy Sandow, and Joseph "Toots" Mondt; The Gold Dust Trio! 

In Episode 50, Derek and Jay are back discussing the sacred topic of protecting the business! From "whistleblower" Jim Wilson on the Morton Downey Jr. Show to Bob Roop and his "Plan B," this episode has Derek's take and asks the important question: Was Jim Wilson right? 

The boys are back with a real conversation about the Florida territory and wrestling legend Eddie Graham. No cats are involved in this episode! Download Episode Here

Derek is on vacation so Jay and Kyle attempt to interview Derek’s cat about Eddie Graham and the Florida territory. This won’t go well. Download here

In this episode, Derek and Jay talk about what makes for good and bad finishing moves. In a C&C exclusive, Derek discusses his relationship with Dave Meltzer’s mother! All this and much more on episode 47! Download Here

Derek and Jay are back with season 4! This time out, Derek shares a bounty of wrestling relics he was gifted and then answers some listener questions. Lots of rambling and non-sequitur discussions abound! Download Here

Derek and Jay sit down and talk wrestling with former AWA, Mid-South,WWF and St. Louis wrestler Tom Stone! A lot of great stories and fun! Download here

Derek and Jay discuss how gimmicks have been recycled and used over the years. Derek walks us through his latest wrestling controversy and Jay craps on Bullet Club t-shirts. All this and much more on episode 44! Download Here

What starts out as a discussion about wrestling debuts quickly devolves into Derek talking about how he ended up on Sports Illustrated’s website, his WWE debut, first run-in and his first match. Lots of stories abound with a little chat about a whole lot of nonsense! DOWNLOAD HERE

It only took 42 episodes for Derek and Jay to finally talk about Johnny Legend and his incredibly strange wrestling programs! This time out, the guys do a watch along to Rock n Roll Wrestling: Music Television from 1987. DOWNLOAD HERE

This time out, Derek and Jay salute the wrestlers who have recently died. Derek discusses his love of Beverly Hills 90210 and Darkman. The guys also address some corrections that need to be made from the things Derek has said. Kyle also has a major revelation about Derek’s name! DOWNLOAD HERE

This time out, Derek and Jay talk about the great wrestling announcers from across the country. Also, Derek shares his opinion and insights into his own announcing career and what he thinks works and doesn’t. DOWNLOAD HERE

This time out, the guys talk about when things get real inside and outside the ring. Derek explains why these moments are romanticized but usually end up awkward and uncomfortable. DOWNLOAD HERE

The guys are back with the conclusion of their discussion about enhancement talent. DOWNLOAD HERE

On this episode, Derek and Jay discuss “ enhancement talent “ aka jobbers, the unsung and often maligned heroes of television wrestling. We find out where Kyle has been. And then ask the age old question… pike or pipe? All this and much more in episode 38! DOWNLOAD HERE

Derek and Jay talk about the history of the NWA tag team titles. From inception to it’s eventual demise and then some… Derek talks cats, the Duseks, and what purpose the belts served while Jay tries coping with an urban coyote. All this and much more!   CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD AND LISTEN TO THE... Read More

This time out, the guys talk about a rarely discussed television event shown on TBS featuring “fan chosen” matches. Besides the show, the guys get into submission moves, Kyle’s engagement, Jay hiding in the woods and Derek explains why Ric Flair’s figure four leglock is all wrong! All this and much, much more! CLICK HERE... Read More

On this episode, Jay grills Derek about working with legends in the business. Derek shares some great stories involving the Rock n Roll Express, Greg Valentine and George Steel’s colostomy bag! CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD AND LISTEN TO THE EPISODE

We’re back with season 3! This time out, the guys watch an episode of Mid South Wrestling which includes a breakdancing Eric Watts, Boyd Pierce in a crazy sport coat, Ted Dibiase in a tuxedo and a Dirty White Boys video package! It’s a fun watch along on the network! CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD AND... Read More

This time out, Derek and Jay talk about famous wrestling ribs, pranks and jokes from the past. Lots of bodily fluids are discussed as well as whether it is OK to eat an Alpaca? All this and much more! CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD AND LISTEN TO THE EPISODE