Mom & Mind Podcast | Postpartum | Birth | Pregnancy | Maternal Mental Health |

The grief process can be messy and unpredictable, and it can vary widely from person to person and through the different phases of life. Grief comes up in multiple, unexpected ways in the motherhood journey when you have already lost your mother. Join us to hear a personal story of motherhood and mother loss from today’s guest. Dr. Olivia Wedel is a licensed professional counselor in Texas. After almost 17 years working in the mental health field, Dr. Olivia started her private practice in the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area, and she enjoys working with students as a permanent adjunct faculty member in the Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at TCU. In addition to postpartum and maternal mental health counseling, she offers non-clinical perinatal support services and postpartum planning for families, psychoeducation and support for parents with children ages 1-3, and community and provider education on perinatal mental health. She is a trained facilitator for the Circle of Security Parenting Intervention P

There is more to the story than postpartum depression. There are many complexities to the ways we talk to ourselves. I see perinatal folks give in frequently to thoughts of self-judgment and even self-hatred, which is not at all a healthy scenario for the transition to parenthood. It’s a time when there are many new things to learn and adjustments to make as we become parents. In today’s session, we answer the important question: “Why are we so hard on ourselves?” Show Highlights: Thoughts of shame, guilt, and not being “good enough” Don’t we deserve the objectivity, compassion, and understanding that we would give to a friend? The answer is YES! Our internalized belief systems come from the pressures we experienced early in life in our families. Having a child to care for brings up a lot of feelings about the past and how we were cared for (or not cared for). Therapy support can help develop necessary coping strategies like self-compassion, softness, understanding, validation, and forgiveness. You CAN

Today’s episode is about a topic that may be unfamiliar to many. My guest shares her journey through her first pregnancy, birth, and postpartum, along with why she chose a very different scenario called free birth to welcome her second child into the world. Join us to learn more! Alexa Ericson shares why she chose a free birth for her second child, what that is, and how that choice worked out for her. She explains how she found comfort through writing and decided to put her experiences into a book–with the hopes of helping other women. Her book of poetry, Motherhood, Disenchanted, covers “adventures into the nitty-gritty, sleep-deprived, chaotic, and sometimes dark thoughts that come fluttering through the early years of mothering.” After back-to-back pregnancies and years of isolated mothering due to her location and lockdowns, she felt a major gap in the discussion around the raw and tough, intimate moments of motherhood. Alexa used her writing as a form of catharsis and a way to work through difficulties.

Postpartum psychosis is often misunderstood and mischaracterized. It is important to humanize this condition, remove the stigma around it, and let people know that treatment is available and healing is possible. In today’s show, we get a rare glimpse into the life of a family through the eyes of both a husband and wife about their journey through postpartum psychosis. Join us to learn more! Derek Winkler is a software engineering manager, father of two (Kerri-almost 4, and Robbie-6 months), and husband to Rowena. Derek shares his perspective of what he experienced as a husband and father and what kind of support he needed.  Dr. Rowena Winkler is a career and empowerment coach who helps high achievers unlock their academic genius and gain clarity in their jobs, businesses, and lives through the power of communication. Using her Ph.D. in Communications, along with mystical modalities such as astrology, human design, and Tarot, Dr. Rowena’s coaching method enables clients to tap into self-love and bold confidenc

We can all agree that the transition to parenthood is huge and multi-faceted. For many parents, that transition feels like not just a big change but a monumental loss. It’s a loss of what once was and the life you had grown accustomed to in your pre-baby world. There are a lot of changes around the freedom and flexibility you once enjoyed, and essentially every area of life is affected. Things are different in your world regarding your attention and energy, as well. Join me in today’s Behind the Sessions look at why this transition feels like a loss–and what you can do about it. Show Highlights: Why it is perfectly acceptable to experience a mixed bag of feelings about parenthood—and each of those feelings should be acknowledged and validated How acknowledging the huge changes within the context of life is an important step (Yes, things change, but exciting things are happening, also!) How to handle outside pressure and negative parenthood experiences from others Why people see a therapist for support and

I’m joined today by Emma Hopkins, a mom and business owner in the UK. At age 39, Emma became a first-time mother and experienced postpartum depression to the point that her entire life, identity, and livelihood changed. She walks us through the tough decision to give up the business that was her heart and soul to prioritize her basic survival. She finally found healing, reconnected with herself, embraced her new role as a mother, and built a new business based on her experience and education. Today she coaches other women who feel a lost sense of identity by helping them rediscover themselves, and she works as a champion advocate with the Maternal Mental Health Alliance in the UK.  Show Highlights: Emma’s story of business ownership in the health and wellness space in Spain and the UK until motherhood at age 39 changed everything Emma’s rude introduction to motherhood, which included severe sleeplessness, complete burnout, and full-blown postpartum depression How she was forced to sell her beloved busines

Today’s conversation is about interpersonal therapy (IPT). You’ll learn what IPT is, how it differs from other therapies, and why it is a validated therapy that is well-suited for the perinatal population. Many more clinicians should seek training in this therapy modality which is full of useful tools and skills. Join us to learn more! Elyse Springer is a longtime colleague and friend with much knowledge about supporting people in their perinatal mental health. She is a current board member for Postpartum Support International’s California chapter and serves as the Policy and Advocacy Chair. She is an emeritus Governing Council member for Maternal Mental Health NOW; she served an eight-year term and continues to provide ongoing training for the organization. She served as a board member of the national maternal mental health policy and advocacy group 2020 Mom Project from 2014-2019, and subsequently sat on the organization’s clinical advisory panel through 2021. In addition, Elyse is a training faculty and em

There are a lot of dynamics at play in becoming a parent, and that is an understatement, to say the least! Often overlooked are the needed conversations around new boundaries, tasks, and the “invisible labor” that a new baby brings. These discussions are vital in protecting the relationship between partners and making the postpartum period more enjoyable for both parents. Today’s episode focuses on the mental and emotional labor that a mom most often takes on in the partnership–and I’m referring primarily to heterosexual couples in this all-too-common scenario.  Show Highlights: How resentment can start to build and negatively impact the couple’s relationship How a therapist will approach the issue with one individual–as opposed to couples’ therapy, which is ideal Different scenarios common in a partnership after a new baby arrives that lead to stress, depression, anxiety, loneliness, and more Why therapy for both partners can be extremely helpful, either individually or as a couple Why communication ar

Today’s show brings back a guest from years ago, and I’m excited to reconnect with her and hear updates about her life and work. She’s a lovely human and a beautiful soul who is doing meaningful work that helps many people. Join us!  Nkem Ndefo is the founder of Lumos Transforms and the creator of The Resilience Toolkit, a model that promotes embodied self-awareness and self-regulation in an ecologically sensitive framework and social justice context. Originally licensed as a nurse midwife, Nkem has extensive postgraduate training in complementary health modalities and emotional therapies. She has worked in a lot of settings from large-volume hospitals to mobile community clinics, and she brings years of expertise as a clinician, educator, researcher, and community strategist. She works in programs that address trauma inequity as she seeks to build resilience and shape liberatory change for individuals and organizations throughout the US and internationally. Her particular interest is in working alongside peo

My guest today is doing important work with perinatal mental health through psychodynamic and somatic therapy. There is a great need for this therapeutic modality to be available to people who need it and for more training to be accessible to care providers. Join us to learn more! Dr. Helena Vissing is a licensed psychologist certified in perinatal mental health as a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner. She is experienced as an adjunct faculty member and on the training committee of Maternal Mental Health NOW where she provides consultations and helps train providers. Helena has written a book on her biopsychosocial model for the treatment of trauma in the perinatal period published with Routledge and titled, Somatic Maternal Healing: Psychodynamic and Somatic Trauma Treatment for Perinatal Mental Health.  Show Highlights: Why the perinatal period is a time of the clashing of biology and culture because of the vast changes to the body and nervous system How Dr. Helena’s integrative treatment model combines s

Becoming a parent can bring intense anxiety and high levels of worry about doing the right thing for your child. Some people have feelings of failure in meeting some high level of expectation that they have of themselves. I always wonder in therapy what has contributed to a person’s suffering in this way, and, as a therapist, I want to dig deeper into why this style of hyper-independence and hyperfunctioning at all costs is activated when some people become parents. Let’s dig deeper in today’s Behind-the-Sessions episode. Show Highlights: How hyper-independence can show up because of childhood events in which someone experiences emotional neglect How being independent, not burdening anyone by asking for help, and relying only on oneself can be magnified in the postpartum Why the pressure to be perfect can lead to high anxiety and even depression in the presence of impossibly high standards Why asking for help and admitting that you aren’t perfect can alleviate the stress, overwhelm, and constant energy dr

We have all been in the place of overstimulation, even if we didn’t recognize what was happening at the time. The transition into parenthood is ripe with opportunities for overstimulation and sensory overload. Today’s episode helps us better understand how and why we are overstimulated, along with useful tips for managing overload and expert insight into how we can be more supportive of ourselves and others. Join us to learn more! Holly Peretz is a Pediatric Occupational Therapist with over 14 years of experience working with children and parents. Her role as a therapist and parent educator ranges from hospitals, preschools, hydrotherapy, and online as she supports toddler parents and clinicians in creating a childhood that “bakes in” the science of what makes toddlers thrive in this critical period of development. Holly also hosts the annual Toddler Play Conference and the Thriving in the First Year Summit.  Show Highlights: How to understand what Holly does as a pediatric occupational therapist Why senso

Hearing the stories of others helps us to know that we are not alone. So many families face premature births, NICU stays, and traumatic birth experiences. As always, our message is that there is support and hope. Join us for Savannah’s story. Savannah Jane O’Malley is a wife and working mother of three former preemies. She works full-time, pursues her artistic passions part-time, and she “moms” all the time. When her twin boys were born 3.5 months early, everything she thought her life was supposed to be was shattered. The one-pound warriors spent their first three months fighting for a chance at life despite many devastating diagnoses, countless ups and downs, and finally achieving incredible triumphs. Going through these experiences helped Savannah discover her true role as a mother, and it set her on a brand-new trajectory.  Through social media, public speaking, writing, and painting, she is a voice of hope for families going through similar trials, and she is an advocate for those with disabilities, espe

If no one has told you lately, it’s okay to fall apart. If you aren’t functioning at 100% and don’t feel like you can do what you are supposed to do today, it’s okay. We are human beings, not machines, and we aren’t meant to push through every single thing in life to produce and do and be and succeed and surpass. Life is not a competition, but a lot of people act like it is. We feel the pressure to keep going and pretend like we are okay to the point of pushing past the need for rest—and our mental health is slowly wearing away. Join me in today’s Behind-the-Sessions episode! Show Highlights: Why January can have you feeling depressed, anxious, and feeling like a failure Why it’s okay to stop pushing yourself to do more and be more How surrendering to your strong feelings is okay—and temporary How pushing ourselves ends up being counterproductive How we get depleted and need to reclaim the ability to slow down Why the drive to be a “self-care warrior” can deplete us Why you need to consider “stepping o

There are many questions and much misinformation about treatment options and medications for maternal mental health conditions (MMHCs). The key to having more awareness and understanding is to get correct information from qualified experts. Only when parents are educated and informed can they make the best decisions about their care! Today’s guest has valuable information to share to help us all become more knowledgeable. Join us to learn more! Dr. Liz Cox is a reproductive psychiatrist in private practice based in Raleigh, North Carolina. She has been in practice for over ten years, previously serving as the Medical Director for UNC Women’s Mood Disorders at Wake Med North in Raleigh and as Residency Education Director in Women’s Mood Disorders at UNC-Chapel Hill’s Department of Psychiatry, where she is currently an adjunct faculty member. Dr. Cox has authored numerous scholarly publications, including textbooks, about the treatment of MMHCs, and she is passionate about decreasing the stigma of MMHCs, increa

The height of the COVID pandemic caused so much fear and anxiety, all for good reason. The moms who gave birth and faced postpartum difficulties during this time were under immense pressure to try to keep themselves and their babies safe.  For many, it ended up being the perfect storm that led to perinatal mental health crises. Join us to hear our guest’s story. Jackie Werboff is a licensed mental health therapist in private practice in Florida.  When she became a mother in 2021, her specialization was in treating complex and developmental trauma. After her experience, she earned her certification in perinatal mental health and began working with mothers, birthing persons, and their families. In today’s episode, she shares the medical and emotional experience she had with COVID at just two weeks postpartum, which sparked undiagnosed depression, anxiety, and intrusive thoughts, along with much worry and fear. Jackie explains how she dealt with returning to work after maternity leave when some of her symptoms r

Is there anything more complex than family relationships? Our family members can run the gamut from the most loving and reassuring people in our lives to the absolute worst and most difficult people we encounter. One of the major reasons people seek out therapy is to deal with the huge amounts of stress that our family members bring to our lives. This can be especially true, and even magnified, in the transition to parenthood, a difficult pregnancy/postpartum, or a time of grief/loss associated with the parenthood journey. It’s these times when finding support is more crucial than ever, and it can be saddening, frustrating, angering, and very disappointing when the ones you love the most are not supportive and helpful. Join me for a closer look at this topic! Show Highlights: How the scenario of a non-supportive family member might play out as your expectations of support are not met How family members can be intrusive, judgmental, or even absent Why you might experience a disconnect with your parents and gr

As we are moving along in 2024, I’m overwhelmed that we are approaching the 8th anniversary of this podcast! Hearing people’s empowering stories of many different types of experiences has put us on an amazing journey! Today’s story is from a NICU doctor who got a new perspective when both of her babies had to spend time in the NICU. Join us to hear Alison’s story! Alison Hanson is a pediatric clinical pharmacist, wife, and the mother of two children. She loved with a passion her work in the NICU which lasted almost seven years. She was blindsided by severe postpartum anxiety and PTSD after her daughter was born prematurely and spent three weeks in the NICU. After working through a lot of healing, she was again caught by surprise by her son’s traumatic birth which resulted in a four-week NICU stay and more postpartum anxiety and PTSD. Alison hopes that sharing her story will help others who work in healthcare and struggle to return to work after facing postpartum anxiety and/or PTSD.  Show Highlights: Alison

Motherhood shouldn’t be filled with guilt and shame! Today’s episode focuses on the social constructs of motherhood and the myth of perfect motherhood. My guest gives a fresh perspective on how we can think differently about motherhood and create a world where mothers feel empowered, supported, and valued. Join us to learn more! Dr. Sophie Brock is a Motherhood Studies Sociologist and mother living in Sydney, Australia. Her work analyzes motherhood in our culture and explores the ways that the individual experiences of mothers are shaped by broader social constructs. Sophie provides self-study courses for mothers and mother-supporting practitioners, mentoring for mother-supporting professionals, The Motherhood Studies Practitioner Certification online training, and her podcast, The Good Enough Mother.  Show Highlights: An overview of Sophie’s work How Sophie defines motherhood studies, motherhood, and mothering by using the analogy of the fish tank Thoughts on the “perfect mother” Why more privilege makes

Welcome to our last episode of 2023 as we continue our Behind the Sessions series. These episodes are created to give you a glimpse behind the scenes of therapy sessions. Even in today’s world, there is so much stigma and so many misconceptions about what goes on in therapy sessions and when someone can benefit from therapy. You don’t have to “just be strong” and pull yourself through the hard things in life. Around the holidays, many people feel disconnected and isolated for various reasons, and it can be a devastating time for your mental health. Let’s talk about how to manage the post-holiday slump.  Show Highlights: Why managing a pregnancy or life with a newborn/toddler around the holidays can be extra stressful Why moms usually feel pressure in greater ways to be the “default doer,” the manager of gatherings, and the coordinator of delicate family relationships How fears of sickness (COVID, flu, and RSV) can cause increased holiday pressure How to navigate family scenarios around setting boundaries