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Marcio is Chief Architect @ Nuri During this episode, Ben sits down with Marcio to discuss how companies can pragmatically manage their technical debt and non-functional requirements in general and achieve sustainability. Nuri is a financial services business, and is the app to manage, save and invest your money. An easy gateway to the world of investing: Get started with cryptocurrencies or investments in the stock market – directly from a German bank account. Here's the relevant links to topics mentioned in the chat: 1) How to perform architecture control of a TypeScript codebase: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/javascripttypescript-code-does-have-mess-marcio-marchini/ . This is what they are using at Nuri - Structure10.com for TypeScript.   2) Erich Gamma’s interview where he talks about the need for proper layering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLPtXeCC82k  3) How they did proper architecture control for other languages, with a maturity model program, also controlling at the “micro” level: https: