Conversations With Matt Dwyer

Leader of the Satanic Temple, Lucien Greaves performed a pink mass on the grave of the mother of Fred Phelps, the founding member of the Wesboro Baptist Church, turning her gay in the afterlife. However, SHane Bugbee recently revealed in an interview for Vice Magazine that Lucien is really the creation of Doug Mesner. Doug and Shane join Dwyer in a captivating conversation about the controversy surrounding the 'Pink Mass', the criticism from the Church of Satan, conspiracy theories and how Doug plans on dealing with his pending legal issues due to the Pink Mass. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.