In The Pocket With David Uosikkinen

In Part 2 of our interview with singer-songwriter-producer Cliff Hillis, he talks about his new single (co-written with Rhett Miller), "Let's Pretend" and performs it live; explains why even his "angry songs" come out sounding cheerful; and reveals his choice for the most perfect song ever written. He also performs his song, "The Buddha's Belly."