Early Edition with Kate Hawkesby

The brutal death of that poor wee boy Malachi is a disgrace.  It's heartbreaking to think an adult could be so cruel to young child. Malachi was beaten, starved, thrown against walls... you name it. Basically torture.  Now we have these debates popping up about it. Should the Minister front for interviews? Karen Chhour, herself a product of the foster care system, was criticised yesterday for attending a pre-planned lunch event to eat some lamb on Parliament's lawn. She should have, according to the RNZ story, presumably been inside answering questions about why more wasn't being done about this boy's murder, which you might recall was back in 2021.  Kelvin Davis, you may also recall, came in for a hammering from the media when was Minister.  So, I think we should all be really clear, neither Karen nor Kelvin nor any politicians are responsible for the deaths of babies.  The fact there is no culprit for the death of Baby Ru in the Hutt is, you could say, the fault of the Police.