Early Edition with Kate Hawkesby

Could the worst of the brain drain be over?   Though migration remains low year-on-year, provisional figures show that net migration for October was up 7% on 2024.   Massey University Sociologist Paul Spoonley told Andrew Dickens he’s optimistic we’re starting to see it plateauing, if not turning around.   He says the pull of Australia is still very strong, but in terms on non-New Zealand migrant departures, that’s looking a bit healthier.  LISTEN ABOVE  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.