The Sustainable Living Podcast

Imagine a new economy that has the betterment of mankind as the driving force, instead of profits. Seriously. Take a moment and envision what the world would be like if those who did good for humans and the planet were the ones who were rewarded. This is the type of world that Perry Gruber wants to create. Perry is the founder of Copiosis, a new economic system that thrives without money, markets or government. I took a drive to the grocery store shortly after recording this interview with Perry. During that drive, I could envision a much more beautiful, loving and helpful world. The stores would be different. People would engage and connect with each other more. Beauty would be a priority.  It was a lovely vision. I also knew that my envisioning probably didn't even come close to the positive changes such a world would embody. And so I'm excited about sharing this interview with you. Because, while some of the concepts that Perry shares may be a little complicated, just knowing that there are people in the w