Dave & Gunnar Show

In this episode, Carolyn Ford (https://dgshow.org/guests/cford) welcomes back Dave Egts, Field CTO at MuleSoft, to Tech Transforms (https://techtransforms.fireside.fm/) to explore the transformative power of AI in 2025. They dive into Dave’s top five AI predictions, with a special focus on the rise of agentic AI—AI that doesn’t just suggest, but acts. Dave explains the difference between generative AI and intelligent agents, why integration via APIs is the key to agent success, and how government agencies can prepare now. Listeners will learn: What “large action models” (LAMs) are, and how they differ from large language models How AI agents are already reducing friction in Salesforce and Slack Why AI success depends on access to high-quality, actionable data What’s driving the shift toward small language models and what that means for secure, on-device AI Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing”—and how to spot it What makes a truly impactful agent vs. a glorified chatbot Dave’s favorite sci-fi robot, a m