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There's no way of knowing how many New Zealand veterans may be fighting in Ukraine. Soldier Dominic Abelen was on leave without pay and not on active duty - when killed in a firefight trying to re-take an enemy trench. The 30-year-old had been fighting with Ukraine's International Legion in the east of the war-torn country. No Duff veteran's trust co-founder Aaron Wood told Heather du Plessis-Allan any soldier like Abelen asking the Defence Force permission to go and fight, will be told, no. He says if they're found out, they'll be in trouble upon their return. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.