Scratching The Surface

Sara De Bondt is a designer, educator, and publisher. She runs her own independent design practice working with cultural clients and is the co-founder of Occasional Papers, a small publishing company focusing on publishing affordable books devoted to the histories of architecture, art, design, film, and literature. The Walker Art Center called Sara "the epitome of a cultural designer, combining a love of contemporary typography with a deep investigation into the history of graphic design. Through her design practice, which consists of client-based work, designing and editing books, and curating conferences, she is consistently contributing to the critical discourse." In this episode, Sara and I talk about her background from studying acting to working with Stuart Bailey, Daniel Eatock, and James Goggin; the importance of design history in contemporary practice; and what designers can learn from other disciplines. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Alice Twemlow is a design writer, critic, and educator. She was the co-founder and chair of SVA's Design Criticism program in New York City and is now the Head of the Design Curating and Writing Program at the Design Academy Eindhoven. She also recently published the book, Sifting the Trash, which is a fascinating history of design criticism. In this episode, Alice and I talk about her interest in design and writing, the history of design criticism and how its evolved, and the collapsing borders between the various design disciplines. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Penelope Dean is an architectural theorist and critic whose research focuses on contemporary architectural culture with an emphasis on the exchanges between architecture and the allied design fields. She is currently an Assistant Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago's College of Architecture, Design, and the Arts and is the founding editor of Flat Out, a fascinating new independent magazine of architecture and design criticism. In this episode, Penelope and I talk about the concept behind Flat Out as well as her own background moving from practice to academia, audiences for design criticism, and how to inject more humor into the critical discourse. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

James Goggin is a designer, educator, and writer. He runs his own design studio with his partner, Shan James, under the name Practise and recently joined the faculty of RISD's graphic design department. He previously worked as Director of Design, Publishing and New Media at the Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago and has taught at Werkplaats Typografie in Arnhem, The Netherlands, and at ECAL in Switzerland. His writing on design has appeared in numerous publications and he currently serves as art director and is on the editorial board of the architecture publication, Flat Out. In this episode, James and I talk about closing the gap between theory and practice, the value of writing in his design process, and subverting the traditional lecture/slideshow format. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Anne Burdick is a graphic designer, writer, researcher, and educator. She's the chair of the Art Center College of Design's Media Design Program and has written for publications like Emigre and Eye. In this episode, Anne and I talk about her own background and journey through design — which we discovered had many parallels to my own design career. We also talk about new modes of practice, the relationships between writing and designing, and asking the big questions of design's role in society and culture. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Manuel Lima is a designer, author, and speaker specializing in information visualization as well as a design lead at Google New York. He's taught data visualization at Parsons School of Design and is the author of the books, The Books of Trees, The Book of Circles, and Visual Complexity. In this episode, Manuel and I talk about his journey into design and interest in interaction design and information graphics as well as his career as both an author and practicing designer, writing outside academic discourses, and how to bring in other areas of study in design scholarship. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Sarah Rich is a writer, editor, and brand consultant based in Oakland, California. She's written about design and food for publications like Dwell, The Atlantic, Wired, and Fast Company. With Wendy MacNaughton, Debbie Millman, and Maria Popova, she recently edited Leave Me Alone with the Recipes, book about the art, life and cooking of graphic designer Cipe Pineles. I first came to Sarah's work when she was editor of Reform, a Medium publication that looked at design in the widest sense. In this episode, Sarah and I talk about how she started writing about design, the beginning and ending of Reform and the challenges in supporting design writing, and thinking about design less as objects and more as lenses through which to see the world. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Adrian Shaughnessy is a designer, writer, and publisher. Along with Tony Brook, he co-founded Unit Editions, an independent publishing company that specializes in design books and monographs for people like Paula Scher and Herb Lubalin. He's written for publications like Eye and Design Observer and his collected essays were published as a book, also called Scratching the Surface, in 2013. In this episode, Adrian and I talk about his transition from designing to writing, how the design discourse has changed over the course of his career, and the value of a strong design criticism. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Elliott Earls is a graphic designer, performance artist, and the artist-in-residence in Cranbrook's 2D Design program. He also produces the YoutTube series Studio Practice, a "no bullshit resource for those things that animate the artist and designer's studio." In this episode, Elliott and I talk about experimental graphic design, Cranbrook's interesting critique format, and how he thinks about his own work, as well as working outside the preconceived styles and movements, how to connect theory and practice without letting the theory get in the way of the making, and how teaching at Cranbrook relates to his own art and design practice. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

In a special one-year anniversary episode, Michael Bierut returns to the show and turn the tables to interview me. One year after I started the podcast and fifty interviews later, Michael and I talk about my own background and why I started the podcast, my graduate school experience, video essays, how the podcast has changed, and what I've learned about design writing over the last year. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Doug Thomas is a designer, historian, writer, and teacher. He's the author of the new book, Never Use Futura, and an Assistant Professor in Brigham Young University's graphic design department. After graduating with a degree in graphic design, Doug continued his education by getting a masters degree in history at the University of Chicago where he began his research on typography history. Doug and I met while we were students in the MFA program at Maryland Institute College of Art, where he was turning his historical work into a book. In this episode, Doug and I talk about the book and why Futura is an important typeface, why designers should study history, and how writing and research has changed how he thinks about design. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Paola Antonelli is the senior curator of the Department of Architecture and Design and the Director of R&D at MoMA where she's expanded the traditional definition of design by acquiring pieces like the @ sign, the original emoji set, and Minecraft. Originally trained as an architect, Antonelli has written and edited for publications like Domus, Metropolis, ID, and Harper's Bazaar and was previously taught at the University of California and Harvard University Graduate School of Design. In this wide ranging episode, Paola and I talk about design as a methodology, the problems with design education, and why she wants to make everyone design critic.

Karrie Jacobs writes about cities, buildings, and design. She's written for publications like Metropolis, Travel and Leisure, The New York Times, ID, and Fortune. She was also the founding editor-in-chief of Dwell and the founding executive editor of Colors. In this episode, Karrie and I talk about working at her college paper with Matt Groening and Lynda Barry, how she started writing about design, working at Dwell and Colors, and how design writing has changed over the course of her career. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Elizabeth Glickfeld is a design writer and lecturer currently based in London. She's the co-founder, along with Anna Bates, of Dirty Furniture, a new kind of design magazine that looks at "when design leaves the showroom" by focusing each issue on a specific piece of furniture. She's also written for various publications including Eye, Design Issues, Domus and Frieze magazine. Previously, she was a student in The Royal College of Art's Critical Writing in Art and Design program and was a lecturer in design theory and history at Swinburne University in Melbourne, Australia. In this episode, Elizabeth and I talk about her background in design and writing, the goals of Dirty Furniture, and experimenting with new forms of design writing. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Geoff Manaugh's blog BLDGBLOG, which he started in 2004 to talk about architecture and landscapes, has been one of my favorite blogs for years. He's also the author of the book, A Burglar's Guide to the City, which was optioned for television by CBS, and has contributed to publications like The New York Times, The Atlantic, Cabinet Magazine, The New Yorker, and Domus. In this episode, Geoff and I talk about how architecture became the center of a venn diagram of his various interests, the changing state of architecture discourse, working with editors, and how to look at design through new lenses.

Theo Inglis is a freelance graphic designer and writer based in London. He is a recent graduate of the Critical Writing in Art and Design MA at The Royal College of Art and currently writes for Grafik and Monotype. In this episode, Theo and I talk about his recent MA thesis, An Absurd Machine: Branding, Design, and the City, how he got started writing while he was working as a designer, the types of design writing we want to see more of, and the differences between design criticism, theory, and journalism.

Hannah Ellis is a designer, writer, and lecturer in London, England where her work explores the intersection between graphic design and education, through publication and editorial design, writing, lectures, workshops and gallery-based pieces. She's a lecturer in the design department of Sheffield Hallam University and writes frequently for the Creative Review. In this episode, Hannah and I talk about her dissatisfaction in working as a designer and her transition to writing and teaching, as well as her recent piece on Monographs for Creative Review, and what's missing from the contemporary design discourse. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Tony Brook is an award-winning designer, creative director, and publisher. He is the co-founder of the London-based design studio Spin and in 2009, he co-founded with Adrian Shaughnessy the design-focused publishing venture Unit Editions. In this episode, Tony and I talk about his early interest in design and how he is continually reinventing Spin, the origins of Unit Editions and his work in publishing, as well as design's obsession with nostalgia and how that influences design criticism. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Mark Lamster is the architectural critic of the Dallas Morning News, a Loeb Fellow at the Harvard Graduate School of Design, and a professor in the architecture school at the University of Texas at Arlington. He's the author of several books, and is currently finishing a biography of architect Philip Johnson. In this episode, Mark and I talk about how he started writing about architecture, how making books is like making architecture, what it's like writing about architecture for a daily newspaper, and how technology is changing the role of the critic. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm

Mr. Jeffery Keedy is a designer, writer, and educator. He studied at Cranbrook and since 1985, has been on faculty at CalArts. Originally trained as a designer, Mr. Keedy started writing early in his career and became a frequent contributor for Emigre and his writing has appeared in publications like Eye, I.D., and the AIGA Journal. When I discovered Emigre, Mr. Keedy's writings were always some of my favorite so this was a special conversation for me. In this episode, we talk about his early design education and how he started writing, how the design discourse has changed and fragmented, and why graphic design as we define it, might just be a 20th century invention that doesn't really exist anymore. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.